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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Italian Grand Prix Reply with quote

I'd like to start this thread with a nice picture from Thursday's press-conference....



...which, judging by their faces, was utterly exciting!! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL yeh that reminded me of a press conference of Rotterdam Racing last year when the drivers were looking sooooo bored when somebody else talked Very Happy
BTW, its logical that the race wont be the most exciting happening on Sundays. I guess Schumi's anouncement will be more important than anything else
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and I think all the drivers are very sad due to Michael's retirement Very Happy Especially little Felipe Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read that Heikki wants Michael to stay Surprised I guess he wants to take him on again, as he did in December 2004 Cool My bet - Michael will retire because he would not want to suffer another defeat from Heikki Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael will change anyway because he would never win a fight against kimi - who is supposed to be his mate then.

But on the other hand it would really be funny to see Schumi beaten by both Heikki and Kimi. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theone wrote:
But on the other hand it would really be funny to see Schumi beaten by both Heikki and Kimi. Smile


That would be really fun! )))) but Michael won't want to race with Kimi as his team mate, I'm sure of it, all his history says so Laughing *runs to the corner shop to stock up the fridge to celebrate MS's retirement*

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the rumours are true, because I'm tired of squeeing seeing another title like 'F1 Champ retires' in the newspapers!!!

Just want to be sure Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st practice results:

Code:
 Pos  Driver        Team                     Time              Laps
 1.  Vettel        BMW-Sauber          (M)  1:23.263           22
 2.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber          (M)  1:23.745  + 0.482   5
 3.  Wurz          Williams-Cosworth   (B)  1:23.868  + 0.605  19
 4.  Raikkonen     McLaren-Mercedes    (M)  1:24.037  + 0.774   5
 5.  Jani          Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M)  1:24.196  + 0.933  24
 6.  Monteiro      MF1-Toyota          (B)  1:25.413  + 2.150   7
 7.  Doornbos      Red Bull-Ferrari    (M)  1:25.578  + 2.315  19
 8.  Albers        MF1-Toyota          (B)  1:25.766  + 2.503   7
 9.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda   (B)  1:26.708  + 3.445  20
10.  Yamamoto      Super Aguri-Honda   (B)  1:27.310  + 4.047  20
11.  Montagny      Super Aguri-Honda   (B)  1:27.597  + 4.334   7
12.  Mondini       MF1-Toyota          (B)  1:28.444  + 5.181   7
13.  Davidson      Honda               (M)  No time             2
14.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes    (M)  No time             1
15.  Massa         Ferrari             (B)  No time             1
16.  Trulli        Toyota              (B)  No time             2
17.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber          (M)  No time             1
18.  R.Schumacher  Toyota              (B)  No time             2
19.  Liuzzi        Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M)  No time             3
20.  Speed         Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M)  No time             1
21.  Rosberg       Williams-Cosworth   (B)  No time             1
22.  Webber        Williams-Cosworth   (B)  No time             1
23.  Klien         Red Bull-Ferrari    (M)  No time             1
24.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Ferrari    (M)  No time             1
25.  Alonso        Renault             (M)
26.  Fisichella    Renault             (M)
27.  M.Schumacher  Ferrari             (B)
28.  Barrichello   Honda               (M)
29.  Button        Honda               (M)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so young Vettel outclassed everybody again, Ant's engine burned on the 1st lap...

The 2nd practice was none the better, though Vettel was on top AGAIN, Schumi and Felipe were right behind him... Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Michael won't want to race with Kimi


I don´t think that Kimi will change to ferrari as long shoelicker is driving there because he won´t ever be satisfied with beeing 2nd man behind anyone else. Kimi is a racer and he is not so cheap like Rubens or Massa, which are selling themselfes.

I´m also sure that shoelicker is afraid of Kimi and wouldn´t want to have him as teammate coz he knows that he would be badly outperformed. That´s obvious.

It´s not very likely but I still hope a lil bit that Kimi will stay at McLaren one more year, outperform Alonso and win the title. haha. with a McLaren ... what a joke.

Anyway, I hope for rain on Sunday, so that the announcement won´t be the most interesting thing ...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 Italian Grand Prix Quali

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Pos    Driver                     Team           Time
                           
1. Kimi Räikkönen       McLaren-Mercedes    1:21.484
2. Michael Schumacher    Ferrari            1:21.486
3. Nick Heidfeld         Sauber-BMW         1:21.653
4. Felipe Massa         Ferrari            1:21.704
5. Fernando Alonso      Renault             1:21.829
6. Jenson Button        Honda              1:22.011
7. Robert Kubica        Sauber-BMW          1:22.258
8. Pedro de la Rosa      McLaren-Mercedes    1:22.280
9. Rubens Barrichello     Honda             1:22.787
10.Giancarlo Fisichella    Renault              1:23.175
11. Jarno Trulli              Toyota
12. Nico Rosberg       Williams-Cosworth       
13. Ralf Schumacher    Toyota       
14. David Coulthard     RBR-Ferrari       
15. Scott Speed       STR-Cosworth       
16. Christian Klien       RBR-Ferrari       
17. Vitantonio Liuzzi       STR-Cosworth       
18. Christijan Albers      MF1-Toyota       
19. Mark Webber      Williams-Cosworth
20. Tiago Monteiro       MF1-Toyota       
21. Takuma Sato      Super Aguri-Honda       
22. Sakon Yamamoto    Super Aguri-Honda          


Sorry guys, I'm crap at making prett tables, but...um...here Embarassed
But what a quali it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's been a long time since I've last seen such quali battles!

WOOO KIMI! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alonso penalised for impeding Massa

World champion Fernando Alonso has been relegated to 10th place on the grid for impeding Felipe Massa during qualifying for the Italian Grand Prix.

Alonso, who had qualified in fifth position, was summoned by the Monza stewards after Ferrari driver Massa complained that the Spaniard had blocked him during his final run.

"On Q3 on my last run, I came up behind Alonso who was also setting out on his quick lap. I lost at least three tenths," said Massa after qualifying.

Alonso said he had not blocked the Brazilian, but the Monza stewards thought differently and have penalised the Renault driver, who will start the race from 10th place.

Alonso got his three fastest laps deleted.

The penalty means he will start eight positions behind championship rival Michael Schumacher, who is 12 points behind him in the standings with four races to go.


OH YES SURE!!! Welcome to Monza, Italy Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad

*sulks*
Let's just give all the titles away to Schumi and Co., right?!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah sis, exactly what I think. This is just another proofe of the cheating actions of Ferrari. WHERE did Alonso block Massa?? Alonso was on his outlap, ok. But 1st) he was driving FAST coz he had to pass the line before black/white and 2nd) he can not drive full power when just coming out of the pits when his breaks were cooling down and the tyres don´t have the full grip at once

GOSH!!

I wonder why they need to drive at all if FIA helps ferrari so long until they become "champ" at the end. yeah, champ -> CHAMP OF CHEATING! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in general I agree with you. But your try of a convince is a bit strange - at first you say he drove as fast as possible but on the other hand you apologize his non-full-power-driving...

But I do have to agree that this punishment is a bit hard but was logical in Italy. No one is allowed to possibly brake the Ferrari down...

Keep cool, in the last 18 months Alonso was such luckily in the races - I'm sure he'll finish at least 5th. And who knows - maybe the championship will be decided in the last race - last lap - last corner. It would be much more funny if Michael seems to become champ in front of the last race and Alonso in the end takes it Smile

Looking for a nice and interesting race and the final decision from M.S.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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at first you say he drove as fast as possible but on the other hand you apologize his non-full-power-driving...


as fast as possible means for me as fast as POSSIBLE under certain conditions. And he was driving afap with new tyres and not optimized breaks AND a changed front wing!

btw, I was just comparing the sector-times from Massa and Alonso:

Alonso sector times

26.8
27.7
27.4

Massa was
26.9
28.0
27.6

WHERE die he affect him???? they were both equal and Massa was not behind Alonso the whole lap! And actually the opposite is the case: the aero forces telematry proved it, he gains more speed not slow down. He got better downforce through driving behind Alonsos rear-wing coz there is no dirty air behind Renaults (different to Ferrari btw). That brought him higher top-speed. NO disadvantage.

Argh.

I need to calm down....

*breathing*

ok, I hope Renault will protest against this decission. Italy or not Italy, it´s a FIA decission and it is ENOUGH. Not FIA is making the champ, the teams should make the CHAMP.

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